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T O P I C R E V I E Wits_aquaOkay so what in a synastry between women, or men, in both cases people of the same gender, would indicate Jealousy?You know not the kind of jealousy you have for your significant other but the jealousy you feel when you think someone is better/smarter/prettier than you?ChirpI think first there would be aspects to show the jealous person's sense of self-worth isn't too good, so something involving Saturn and the inner planets in their natal chart.Then probably some kind of bad Pluto aspects in synastry, and/or Mars aspects to explain the overt hostility.hikoro quote:Originally posted by its_aqua:Okay so what in a synastry between women, or men, in both cases people of the same gender, would indicate Jealousy?You know not the kind of jealousy you have for your significant other but the jealousy you feel when you think someone is better/smarter/prettier than you?isnt that...like...'the way it usually is' among women? *evolutionary psychology/biology*Chirp quote:Originally posted by hikoro: isnt that...like...'the way it usually is' among women? *evolutionary psychology/biology*I'm just enough of a feminist to refuse to buy that; I think it has to be an individual, case-by-case thing. I'm not really a catty woman, and over the course of my life I've known a few others who aren't either. Not all women are like that.I still say if there's astrological markers for lack of self-esteem in the chart along with a strong Mars or strong Pluto, probably afflicted, then yeah they'll handle their own lack of self-esteem by trying to take down everyone around them that has something they feel they lack, or any woman that is happier than they are.hikoro quote:Originally posted by Chirp: I'm just enough of a feminist to refuse to buy that; I think it has to be an individual, case-by-case thing. I'm not really a catty woman, and over the course of my life I've known a few others who aren't either. Not all women are like that.I still say if there's astrological markers for lack of self-esteem in the chart along with a strong Mars or strong Pluto, probably afflicted, then yeah they'll handle their own lack of self-esteem by trying to take down everyone around them that has something they feel they lack, or any woman that is happier than they are.among humans being in general, people will tear each other apart in different ways. women are more likely to do it verbally, men...via physical prowess. plenty of feminists who have written about this phenomenon, by the way. it doesnt invalidate or posse a problem toward feminist philosophy..or goes against it.it is not misogynistic.and yes, not all women are like that...of course. just like not all feminists will agree with your take on this. of course.Gemmy.Chirp quote:Originally posted by hikoro: among humans being in general, people will tear each other apart in different ways. women are more likely to do it verbally, men...via physical prowess. plenty of feminists who have written about this phenomenon, by the way. it doesnt invalidate or posse a problem toward feminist philosophy..or goes against it.it is not misogynistic.and yes, not all women are like that...of course. just like not all feminists will agree with your take on this. of course.Humans can have the potential to be jealous-hearted, that I'm not contesting at all. What I do disagree with, is that every person or every female has that tendency because it's not true. And even among those who are the jealous type, you and I both know there's a total difference between the kinda jealousy that goes on between some (emphasis on "some") women, and the types of jealousy men display toward one another, or toward a woman, etc. When women engage in cattiness toward one another, they take it to new highs (or rather, new lows) that is a totally different beast entirely from what other catty members of the population do; way more cruel, way more vindictive, way more obsessive and fixated about it.
You know not the kind of jealousy you have for your significant other but the jealousy you feel when you think someone is better/smarter/prettier than you?
Then probably some kind of bad Pluto aspects in synastry, and/or Mars aspects to explain the overt hostility.
quote:Originally posted by its_aqua:Okay so what in a synastry between women, or men, in both cases people of the same gender, would indicate Jealousy?You know not the kind of jealousy you have for your significant other but the jealousy you feel when you think someone is better/smarter/prettier than you?
isnt that...like...'the way it usually is' among women? *evolutionary psychology/biology*
quote:Originally posted by hikoro: isnt that...like...'the way it usually is' among women? *evolutionary psychology/biology*
I'm just enough of a feminist to refuse to buy that; I think it has to be an individual, case-by-case thing. I'm not really a catty woman, and over the course of my life I've known a few others who aren't either. Not all women are like that.
I still say if there's astrological markers for lack of self-esteem in the chart along with a strong Mars or strong Pluto, probably afflicted, then yeah they'll handle their own lack of self-esteem by trying to take down everyone around them that has something they feel they lack, or any woman that is happier than they are.
quote:Originally posted by Chirp: I'm just enough of a feminist to refuse to buy that; I think it has to be an individual, case-by-case thing. I'm not really a catty woman, and over the course of my life I've known a few others who aren't either. Not all women are like that.I still say if there's astrological markers for lack of self-esteem in the chart along with a strong Mars or strong Pluto, probably afflicted, then yeah they'll handle their own lack of self-esteem by trying to take down everyone around them that has something they feel they lack, or any woman that is happier than they are.
among humans being in general, people will tear each other apart in different ways. women are more likely to do it verbally, men...via physical prowess. plenty of feminists who have written about this phenomenon, by the way. it doesnt invalidate or posse a problem toward feminist philosophy..or goes against it.it is not misogynistic.and yes, not all women are like that...of course. just like not all feminists will agree with your take on this. of course.
quote:Originally posted by hikoro: among humans being in general, people will tear each other apart in different ways. women are more likely to do it verbally, men...via physical prowess. plenty of feminists who have written about this phenomenon, by the way. it doesnt invalidate or posse a problem toward feminist philosophy..or goes against it.it is not misogynistic.and yes, not all women are like that...of course. just like not all feminists will agree with your take on this. of course.
Humans can have the potential to be jealous-hearted, that I'm not contesting at all. What I do disagree with, is that every person or every female has that tendency because it's not true. And even among those who are the jealous type, you and I both know there's a total difference between the kinda jealousy that goes on between some (emphasis on "some") women, and the types of jealousy men display toward one another, or toward a woman, etc. When women engage in cattiness toward one another, they take it to new highs (or rather, new lows) that is a totally different beast entirely from what other catty members of the population do; way more cruel, way more vindictive, way more obsessive and fixated about it.
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